They talk of remission. Why you might have it. MRI Detects Breast Cancer with High Accuracy. The ancient Greek philosophers of Plato's day would gather for all-night discussions of any topic whatsoever. Dr. Miller (my urologist / surgeon) had told me that because of my physical condition and my "Youth" (at which I laughed until I cried) I was a good candidate for the Robotic Assisted Surgery. The hip pain/sensation may be a neurological affair. But it turned out I had to have The Chemo (Lupron) to weaken any remaining cancer cells that might have been left behind and then I had the 8 weeks of Radiation, after being on the Lupron for two months prior. E ven though the vast majority of cancer mortality is due to metastatic disease, clinical practice indicates that current imaging tools are capable of detecting large metastases (about 0.5-1 cm in size), but rarely detect the early spread of metastatic tumor cells. Things will work out for you......recomend that you take your wife out for another lunch...make it  today. Then Dr. Miller had the robot do a mirror image and it got to the lymph nodes on the left side. Keep a file with all copies. Nobody get on top of a table and shouts MRI rules! To All, I feel we must have other things on our minds than the fight we're all in. Lesions on MRI were assigned a PIRADS score and comparison made with histopathology results. I went through the same thing with a Grumpy Urologist. The cohort was numerous but the image studies were from earlier CT and MRI machines, which image results would be out of date if used in building a “score” with more sophisticated equipment. L_Family, CC BY-SA 2.0 As a way to avoid heavy radiation exposure during cancer detection, scientists from Stanford University’s School of Medicine and Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital have demonstrated that MRI-based imaging techniques are just as effective as conventional scanning methods, but bring none of the risks. It is a mental night mare and even if the cancer is found to be none aggressive, we must find the courage to live with it. He continues in this program. First they had trouble getting the robot through the mesh from a double abdominal hernia repair. On the other hand, a MRSI scan can pinpoint the exact location of any cancer within or near the prostate using a gadolinium dye, which is a very precise marker for cancer, as a contrast medium. There are also other centers of excellence that run Active Surveillance programs for men. At my last checkup, it was up to 134. In other words, all the data collected is necessary and important. My leg muscles were so developed from the cycling that they couldn't find the lymph nodes in my right groin. Hi Swingshiftworker, That PSA  rise must have been a major worry? At 6 weeks I couldn't take it any more and bugged the hell out of him and ask him If I could try my trainer/spinner bike. I loved the English group Led Zeppelin's early hit Ramble On. I am hearing a pop hit's refrain in my head. The rest of that night I was at the hospital. My doctor gave me the option of surgery or radiation treatments. There was a brilliant documentary movie made about the band called "Oil City Confidential" by the Director Julian Temple.....If you love rock and roll you'll love this film....All human life is there, Also if you get the series Game of thrones then Wilko Johnson appears as Ser LLyn the kings executioner....Here he is in one of the bands early hits "Roxette"....He's the guy in black with the chicken neck moves......sure knows how to play the guitar though....even though he's an odd looking guy, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaybV46MA6E, Got to admit to being impressed with your training regime.....Never mind the PCa .....You've kicked its ***....You'll live forever. Photo by Volt Collection/Shutterstock, CDC: 10 life-threatening reactions linked with Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, CDC: Flu continues to have 'low' impact as COVID-19 pandemic rages, Study: Rising number of people getting weight-linked headaches, Experts: Vaccines likely to be effective against new COVID-19 variants, Poll: Half in U.S. still not wearing masks when out in public, President Joe Biden's 48-year career in government. Though some prostate cancer can grow and spread quickly, it usually spreads slowly. This treatment type is not a fly  night treatment and is considered valid. Always nice to meet an Anglophile, and a Submariner at that....Many years ago I used to train with a group of Royal Marines based in Portsmouth (two of whom were old schoolfriends) They always managed to whip my butt no matter how fit I thought I was. For example, it could be scar tissue … ), I have already read the free PSA article (in the last 5 weeks there probably isn't a PCa web page that I haven't read)...a lot of people use a cut of of 25% but I have read a lot of scientific research where 23% is used.....(whoops there goes another straw )   The other article I shall digest later thanks, Since my consultation with the grumpy urologist I have learnt about the PI-RADS scoring system for MRI imaging....(wish I'd had this info before)....Just wanted to know really if the doc was not telling me the whole truth for whatever reason, Thank you for your informative post and for taking the time to reply. My last three check ups have been clean with no surgery needed. It is located in the pelvis in front of the rectum and between the bladder and penis. I'm a blue eyed, blond of German descent. As Vasco noted, neither the free PSA or conventional PSA testing proves anything. I plan to continue with this treatment option for the rest of my life if I can. At the same annual conference of 2015, Dr. Dan Margolis (a radiologist at UC Los Angeles) introduced the PI-RADS score which ranged from 1 to 5 namely highly unlikely to highly likely. I was out on the road up to three hours per day. My Hernias popped out while I was carrying a ladder down a flight of steps from the back sun deck on the house. He'd sit with my wife during my treatment and then we'd pass each day in the hall and give each other a "High Five", as we passed by each other. Let us know of developments in your case...we will do our best to give input. June 12 (UPI) -- Doctors have traditionally relied on ultrasounds to examine men for prostate cancer, but the method can't pinpoint specific tumors, a new study says. I was listed as a Stage pT3bN1. Surely, the PSA can be high due to other causes and a blinded biopsy can miss affected cancerous tissues but in the end, the biopsy may provide you peace of mind. But MRI uses strong magnets to make the images – not radiation. Thank you Da Vinci. If a doctor could state unequivocally that I could keep an eye on this "thing" for the next x number of years, without the danger of it suddenly "ambushing" me between tests and getting up to mischief then I might contemplate it, but I don't imagine any Doc is going to guarantee that.....Therein lies my personal problem, maybe in time I could be persuaded, but for now I know I couldn't go down that road.....I'm very pleased that it is working for you.....Thanks for replying. Researchers publishing in the Lancet medical journal have shown that an MRI picks up 93% of aggressive cancers, compared with 48% for a biopsy. My GP is also a former student of mine as are 3 others who have been helping me fight this battle. The thing to do now is get a biopsy. When a doc tells you that "something" has shown up on an MRI scan a cold clammy hand grabs at your innards and won't let go...(I lost both my parents to cancer so am always aware that genetically I'm in the losers corner). However now, I go to a distant hospital to a Skin Oncologist for a checkup once a year. There are other cyclists and runners, One of us is even a body builder and is doing competitions. In Radiology it is not a game of competition of who or what is better. Computed tomography (CT) and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) have not been clinically useful for characterization of the adnexa in ovarian cancer screening. Multiparametric MRI may be more sensitive than systematic TRUS-guided techniques for detecting clinically significant prostate cancers and for reducing the number of insignificant cancers diagnosed, although the available data suggest that the information obtained is complementary to that obtained using TRUS-guided biopsy, and at most institutions, a … Please be aware of all the side effects from these drugs and treatments. They treated me as if I were an Advanced Stage 4. Results: Estimates of the sensitivity of MRI for the detection of cancer vary widely depending on method of analysis used and the definition of significant disease. I was a Music Teacher and taught Instrumental Music in the public schools, plus an elementary & middle school band director. Several prefer to have the situation obscured and conduct their life as usual. The content on this site is for informational purposes only. That was the area where the radiation had hit. Of course I wanted to believe him, so skipped out of his office and bought the most expensive lunch I have ever bought, and happy to do it. This guy is a well known Professor of urology with an international reputation, many books and papers published etc....40 minute consultation and DRE and he tells me "No Cancer"....."Great" I thought and skipped off.....I was happy to call it a day and cancel the upcoming hospital appointments My wife although pleased had other ideas and insisted I stick with the program. However my doctor wouldn't do it, until I talked to Radiation Oncology and learned about the radioactive seeds and that type of treatment. "......Unfortunately the more I learn the more I fear that this "something" might be what I'm dreading.....This after putting my details into the UT Health and Science centre of San Antonio's nomogram and getting 83 smiley faces out of 100 (meaning I had only a 17% chance of something sinister.....)....To quote a line from my favourite movie Some like it hot "Nobody's Perfect", I remember saying to my wife just before we walked into the hospital urologists office...."If there are scans clipped onto light boxes I'm screwed".....I even jokingly  said to try to peek a look at my notes to see if there's a skull and crossbones drawn on them.....Black humour is the only form of protection when facing something like "hospital tests", As for Optimistic and hopefuls helpful posts.....I guess that anything is possible, like I mentioned earlier I am not a good patient and hate taking pills and potions of any kind....the thought of the various treatments for PC just leave me very trepidatious....Could I sleep with the enemy? So, Let the Music Play, let the Wine (or whatever) Flow, Get out there a drive your … In no sense are we restricted to the US. The results of the biopsy is the critical information. The doctor was awful. ....is the smart way to go..............the possible side effects of the various treatments, especially surgery can be  very severe.. Hi H&O, I'm of course hoping that I don't have to make that decision....but my pessimism is getting the better of me. Ultimately all the research I have done in the last 7 weeks has amounted to a row of beans..But if nothing else I have "met" some very supportive people (yourself included) on this forum and other forums who have been happy to educate me and give me reassurance.....So for that I am truly appreciative...... A mpMRI can highlight areas where a cancer mass "may" be present in the prostate and is a good diagnostic tool for determining what areas of the prostate should be biopsied but it cannot detect smaller, less obvious cancer sites. It was a hit and run. ", Using a combination of ultrasound and MRI to screen for prostate cancer was as much as 33 percent more effective than one method alone, according to a new study. Several live performances in the set. Endoscopy involves a procedure wherein a tiny camera is inserted in your body (usually while you are under anesthesia) to detect and diagnose cancers and other problems. It was rough, but I've made it this far. Your conventional PSA rise, or 'vector' (also called 'Doubling Rate') was significant, but it also does not 'prove' anything. At any rate you received good answers from the other posters. This technique does not utilize ionizing radiations such as X-rays. Turned out that was not the problem. I got the link you sent . MRI creates cross-section pictures of your insides. Doctor called me in, never introduced himself, was a bit stand offish, not unpleasant but very business like, asks why I did not have the biopsy? I was afraid that the cancer would spread outside the prostate. The electric 6 string or the bass player. They had to make an incision in my bladder to get the prostate removed. Regarding the MRI tesla 3 (3T), we know that it provides better image (higher resolution) clear to identify disturbances, but as your doctor commented it does not distinguish cancerous cells from benign. I suppose it depends how unpleasant the enemy is. As long as my PSA stays at "0", they tell me I'm doing well. This continued for several months. So, Please be aware that this problem could come about. The cancer detection rate among women who actually underwent MRI screening was 16.5 per 1,000 … So, Let the Music Play, let the Wine (or whatever) Flow, Get out there a drive your pants off in your favorite sports or muscle car, enjoy nature, and live every day like it's your last. I would recommend it to everyman at the first sign indicating probabilities to cancer (including those multiparametric MRIs). It' s just another problem that can arise, as your immune system is fighting. It's a long hard fight, but if you get ahead of it early you will be much better after the fact. I have 60 titanium staples holding mine in place. The MRI scan is very sensitive for detecting invasi ve carcin oma. He explains that the MRI is showing "something" and it is small. Hi, thanks for your reply.....I can assure you that in the last 6 weeks I have become a prostate cancer "expert" I could probably even take my own prostate out at a push.....So I'm well aware of the gleason scores and staging (although I'd rather not be). I myself herald from the US state of South Carolina, founded by English aristocrats in the 1600s. MY GP Suggested a different doctor. That's what they told me. It was to take 2 1/2 hours. With the help of powerful magnetic field and radio waves, MRI creates detailed images of tissues as well as internal organs. For women with lobular breast cancer a breast MRI scan might be used to see the cancer. I take it as a means of screening but there are responsibilities involved and one should be prepared in advance in regards to its results. At my last check up, my PSA still remains at <0.010, where it has been since two months post surgery. This holds true even when the breast lesion is not detectable using other imaging methods such as mammogram, X-ray or physical examination. So, the radioactive treatments woudln't have worked. the fact that I immediately thought Lymph nodes just means all this PC stuff is messing with  my mind.....I'm now down to speak to the hernia people in a few weeks time.....getting old isn't all it's cracked up to be, Thanks for your good wishes.....Hope your condition just keeps getting better and better and in the meantime find Dr Feelgood's "Milk and Alcohol" and crank it up to 11.....even better for you than Da Vinci Surgery. I suppose I should take solace from the fact that he was willing to give me the option, but then again it's not his life. My surgery took 5 1/2 hours to complete. A PET Scan uses a special substance, this substance is called "tracker" and is almost exactly like sugar, but has a small … He explained all this to me around 10:30 the night of the surgery. I guess she saw something she was worried about. Just got to suck it up and see what the next few weeks brings. The MRI uses magnets to detect and diagnose cancers. Doctors also use it to learn more about cancer after they find it, including:The size and location of the tumorTo plan cancer treatments, such as surgery or radiation therapyTo see how well treatment is working "To maximize our ability to identify prostate cancer, we need to take advantage of all the information we can. 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